48 Comments

Hi Marc. So I've got more questions and comments for you. Like I mentioned in an earlier note to you, since I'm one of the injured, I try to relate your theory to my own experience. One of the best "treatments" I've done to help myself during a flare up (almost full body neuropathy) is a cold plunge (getting in the cold ocean) or cold shower. This activity will not only halt a flare up, but the flare might not return for hours, or at all that given day. The cold water is probably shocking my nerves, but also my veins are constricting, possibly closing up the leaks that you describe. I think this supports your theory.

Here are my new questions (and 1 comment) for you.

1. Many of us injured have been diagnosed with Mast Cell Activation Syndrome or have issues probably related to mast cells. If you read up on MCAS various things can trigger symptoms for someone who has MCAS. And these people are more sensitive than others to allergens. Do you think that MCAS might also just be a problem of leakage, where someone doesn't have the proper boundaries that most people take for granted?

2. Stem Cells - Do you think the stem cells we have are trying to repair the damage? If not, how come? Is it just a slow slow process? I'm better than I was a year ago, and definitely better than 2 years ago.

3. Stem Cells - You talked about the danger of stem cells multiplying because of transfection of LNPs. Isn't that the goal of oxygen therapy, to stimulate more stem cells for repair?

4. Each cell (not stem cell) that gets transfected, do they all produce spike? If so, after that, they just get destroyed by immune system, right?

5. Batches - Do you think there's any validity to the idea that some batches were contaminated?

6. Peg - How long does it take for this to wear off for the LNP to transfect? Some injured people report symptoms days after injection, the day of, or even within an hour or so.

7. Peg - (comment) I think you need to really highlight the details around Peg. I think most people think, for your theory to be right, the LNPs would damage everything along the journey through the vascular system, not strike further away from the injection site. This part is key!

8. COVID - In your view is COVID a vascular disease, as we've been lead to believe? If it is, could it also damage endothelial cells like LNPs? You've said that "Long Covid" is just camouflaged vaccine injury. Could you link me to articles (by you or others) that illustrate your thinking here? I'm still trying to understand this better.

Thanks again for your time!

Expand full comment

Oh, yeah, one more question. Are you still thinking of doing a zoom chat with subscribers? I'd definitely be interested! Thanks!

Expand full comment

Yes I need to organize that

Expand full comment

Awesome!

Expand full comment

Hi Marc. Great update on the original article. The idea that the NLP's progressively leak into the system makes a lot of sense to me. I was exercising a lot (running over 5 miles a day) soon after my 2nd shot and I imagine the exercise was probably carrying this stuff all over the body. Also, I wonder if people with thinner blood are more vulnerable.

Question regarding children. I'm aware of the concern from you regarding stem cell transfection because children have more. Do you think children who are injured by a vaccine, but not severely, have a better chance at repair, since they have so many stem cells? If so, it might be another reason why we are less aware of the injuries from the traditional vaccines "we all" were exposed to decades ago.

Expand full comment

Yes, absolutely

Expand full comment

I came ever so close to injecting these gene therapy drugs, having been heavily lobbied by close friends. In this moment I am ever so thankful for my skepticism, ( vaccine hesitancy ? ). Fly fishing is our common bond and two M.D.s among us. Purely social and not scientific is the now inability to discuss the aftermath. It's sad. It was OK to tell me I needed to get the jab, but not OK to discuss the adverse reactions the injectees now live. Finding an M.D. willing to admit they were wrong in their own field of expertise is near impossible. There is a to be expected combination of intelligence, pride and ego that unfortunately forms a hard communication barrier. I can only assume this exists through the entire medical hierarchy; from science to medical practitioners.

Expand full comment

Please provide a link / reference name of the "study by Harvard Medical: Ogata et al. that detected a maximum level of around 3 trillion spikes at Day 5." Thank You.

"Many detractors have been saying I was always entrenched in the Bolus Theory. This proves I did consider Circulating Spike Theory seriously, but had to acknowledge the reality they were being neutralized by an even greater quantity of antibodies: 17,000 trillion antibodies."

I hear reference to "NON-neutralizing" antibodies and antibody enhancement > Does this infer that such spike will have a longer "active" time for initiation of pathology? Or, with the class shift toward IgG4 in some muli-injected without previous sars-cov-2 infection, longer or at some level or frequency, ongoing "Circulating Spike ".

Expand full comment

Search Ogata in my Substack you will find the reference.

They have found at D5 a maximum of 150 pg/ml od spike protein which I multiplied by 5,500ml of blood.

Natural antibodies aren't neutralising, but they do the job while neugralizing ones mature (jab 1), at jab 2, Tcell intervene so quickly that spike is hardly detectable.

And so IgG4 is perfectly normal down regulating as there are no massive amount of spike post jab 2.

Expand full comment

White clots initiated by? billions of spike protein from infection attaching to "CD147, a transmembrane glycoprotein, is expressed on all leukocytes, platelets, and endothelial cells." and up to 3 trillion spike from injection of lipid nano-particle / mRNA (Ogata et al.) and from immune system reaction against cells so transfected setting off a cascade of platelet microcotting and endothelial injury and inflammation then exacerbated by the prion initiating site insertion reported to be in "both" viral spike prior to Omicron and the "other" ("vaccine") antigen spike "created" by mRNA so encoded, (and viral vector?) causing increases in amyloid and now reported to be an amyloid "feature" in the S2 subunit of spike in certain Omicron- all combined with the shedding of such matter from so injured endothelial cells lining blood vessels?. White clots consisting of "amyloid, fibrin and platelets" . (Dr. Ryan Cole) Are there also indications of spike in the white clots?

wickedpedia - "Fibrinogen is a glycoprotein complex, produced in the liver, that circulates in the blood of all vertebrates. During tissue and vascular injury, it is converted enzymatically by thrombin to fibrin and then to a fibrin-based blood clot. Fibrin clots function primarily to occlude blood vessels to stop bleeding. Fibrin also binds and reduces the activity of thrombin"

Amyloid from spike - 2 of many studies - "Towards the emergence of a new form of the neurodegenerative Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease: Twenty six cases of CJD declared a few days after a COVID-19 vaccine Jab" Also now being reported to be a S2 subunit "feature" in certain Omicron. "SARS-CoV-2 Spike protein S2 subunit modulates γ-secretase and enhances amyloid-β production in COVID-19 neuropathy"

One of the actions of ivermectin is reported to be binding to CD147 which then prevents spike adhesion to the ivermectin bound CD147. (David E. Scheim, PhD)

This is a action of ivermectin which makes the re-profusion drug application of 100 mg dose of ivermectin so effective in the intermediary (before hardening into clots) covid blood "clumping" stage seen here "The patient experience of ivermectin" "Dr Jackie Stone describes how her own experiences of taking ivermectin for severe covid" https://medicalupdateonline.com/2021/04/the-patient-experience-of-ivermectin/

Expand full comment

Respectfully, theendothelial damage is done by Tcells.

Spike proteins are handled by antibodies and macrophages, immunology 101. I debunked

Spikeopathy in 14 different ways.

Amyloids can only emerge if the immune system is destroyed, which isn't the general case.

Expand full comment

"We hypothesize" ~The activated immune system is killing cells that are budding spike - if so is it not then to be considered that free spike spike is binding to cells via attachment to any of numbers of "receptors" it is capable of binding to on the cell surface and this could "lead to direct killing of cells" so "presenting spike protein"?

that in quotes is from a study section you highlighted in "Free-Floating Spikes cannot be the root cause of Adverse Effects" that appears to have come from “Circulating Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome Coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) Vaccine Antigen Detected in the Plasma of mRNA-1273 Vaccine Recipients” by Alana Ogata et al.

Expand full comment

There's no hypothesis.

It's basic antigen presentation of spike peptides on the MHCs.

Check the moA of the vaccine as per Pfizer's own scientist.

That's why these technologies were created to kill tumours. So evidently, they need to trigger Tcell attacks...

Expand full comment

I found this "Similarly, eradication of virus-infected cells often depends on cytotoxic CD8+ T cells, which rely on the recognition of peptide–MHC complexes for their action."

Once the cytotoxic CD8+ T cells via the recognition of peptide–MHC complexes have learned to destroy cells budding spike could they then also have learned to destroy cells to which free spike has attached?

Expand full comment

There's another mechanism it's called ADCC.

But the real lesson learnt, is that very few spike is actually produced post Dose 2, because T-cells cut production short. And that's what Ogata et al shows:

https://doi.org/10.1093/cid/ciab465

I wrote a detailed article:

https://covidmythbuster.substack.com/p/lifting-the-fog-over-decades-of-injuries

See graph: https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb0bbc902-65fb-4cd5-99ed-6234a4fbfd1d_2752x2219.jpeg

Expand full comment

Thank You for helping me learn more.

Expand full comment

Hi Marc, I have a 5 year old grandson who’s been diagnosed with severe autism. Can you confirm that you believe Oxygen therapy, either Hypobaric or other may be beneficial to his recovery? Can you offer (again) the specific recommendations for O2 therapy? Thanks!

Expand full comment

Hi,

I am not a doctor so I cannot give you advice. I can only tell you that autism is consistent with the bolus theory and that endothelial damage seems to be curable by stem cell stimulation. Oxygen has been demonstrated to stimulate stem cells in fundamental science and for over a hundred years through HBOT. Stem cell repair is also proven by micro-chimerism (fetal stem cells repairing the mother), but there are also many studies showing quite extraordinary results of HBOT with endothelial-damage-related diseases: ASD, ALS, AD, PD, fibromyalgia, tinnitus...

Check my Dec 21, 2023 article there's a list.

Most likely NBOT would be easier family-wise and less stressful for the child. It might take longer to heal, but it should be easier psychologically, as it can be undertaken at home.

ASD-diagnosed patients have the Hallmark of Bolus-induced damage; they often have many other painful illnesses, so it can also alleviate much of the pain they might endure. If my child had ASD, I would absolutely use OT (of course within the safety guidelines). Hope this helps.

Expand full comment

Perfect, thanks

Expand full comment

Thank you Marc

Expand full comment

Thanks for reading me, George.

Expand full comment

I’m completely riveted by the bonus theory and your theories for the LNP. Unless there is some other explanation, which I doubt, this is pretty convincing.

Expand full comment

I know. Me too. I am a pretty darn hard-ass consultant, and every time I test it, it comes out on top.

I just tested with inadvertent epinephrine IV and, boom...

Expand full comment

I agree-great read. My question may be unanswerable but-I am 68. I got Moderna vaccine right after my age group came up. I didn’t want it, I had already had Covid-the original version, and found it like a minor flu. My daughter has had the initial Moderna plus one booster because her residency program in pediatrics forced it. Her husband who is Israeli probably had more. Now she is about to give birth to her first child

What are the stats on vaccinated moms and childbirth issues? I can’t find a great article on this

Expand full comment

If she is vaccinated during pregnancy, the stats are not good because of the large endothelial exposure of the placenta. But it sounds like she's fine.

If she was fine after her vx, and then became pregnant, they should be fine. The baby might even have healed her with circulating stem cells.

You do not want to vaccinate a pregnant woman. She should avoid vaccination prior to giving birth at all cost.

Expand full comment

Just the bouncing ball video was worth the price.

Expand full comment

I would assume that a responsible and thinking medical scientist would FIRST conclude that “there are too many unknowns, we should not go into this line of work at all”, and THEN burn all documentation, destroy all samples, ban any research along these lines and call for starting the work again from the ground up.

Why doesn’t it happen?

(Greed and power games left aside, of course.)

Why so highly educated people do not follow the #1 rule of life: do something > if problems arise, stop?

Expand full comment

Because the problems that arise aren't theirs, the pharma and medical establishments have massaged society, using arguments of authority - in such a way as to grant them not only permanent amnesty but full unaccountability.

Expand full comment

Sounds reasonable. But the question remains: How come such people have managed to occupy such positions of real human responsibility - without being human or responsiblle?

I mean, the whole scientific community is watching them 24/7. Are everybody so corrupt mentally and emotionally that they all pretend this situation is ok?

In any other industry, this would be unheard of. Maybe because when a machine breaks down or an airplane goes down (see the Boeing door), the financial damages are real. Unlike with people dying...

Expand full comment

There is a song in the musical South Pacific called “You Have To Be Carefully Taught”. The pharmaceuticals and their handmaidens of government and conventional medicine have been carefully teaching us. Like the tobacco industry and how we perceive war, the economy, so called climate change, religion, morality, etc. All of it. Carefully taught.

Expand full comment

There's immense feeling of freedom when you see it all at face value. My subjective feeling.

Expand full comment

Dan, you are correct. I do feel more free in myself. Cheers!

Expand full comment

There's also an enormous cognitive dissonance.

The idea that they've harmed people for decades, or that their belief system based on trust in hierarchy and government was betrayed, is cognitively unbearable for most.

Expand full comment

To some extent, there must be, obviously. The nature of health care is that sometimes immediate harm has to be done to produce long-term benefit or to save life. This - I understand.

My questions are rhetorical, obviously. What we now know (courtesy of lockdowns and fantasy measures) is that medicine as a whole is a random patchwork of people, ideas and procedures with no hierarchy of values or prioritization of behaviors (other than “do not ever make any statements against your own”). Scientific reasoning or rationale for handling patients - forget. Liability - 100% but in the modern form of lie-ability. From a standpoint of an average patient, the situation is beyond a point of no return. No trust, total disbelief and verifying every word with 10 other “doctors” is now an attitude of survival.

And they steal unbelievable amounts of money from our hard work for their “service” or “science”. The whole façade of medicine is gone. This must be life-shattering for the handful of honest, well-meaning people in the field.

Expand full comment

When I finally realized what was really going on in the worlds I trusted, I melted down and almost took to my bed. It happened almost at once--not a slow realization. Like the bouncing balls of all my so called truths bounced down a very short street and hit a wall. During Covid. August 2021. I certainly have a different view of things now. No one I know wants to hear a whiff of any of this, so I wait for what will come. 😢

Expand full comment

Hi Janet,

>No one I know wants to hear a whiff of any of this

REPLY: So true. What has puzzled me and continues to do so, is that health seemed to be an important factor when I was growing up in the 1950s and 1960s as was a profound concern for the toxins being released nay flooding the environment of the Earth. Which generated the (at the time) robust and informed environmental movement.

All that collective awareness and action evaporated from the 1980s to the present with the exception of the wake up call of SarsCov2.

More could be written. I just don't understand how people come to accept the popular narrative pushed by the main stream media for the last 40 years. We used to be so skeptical of the gov. Vietnam was a big reason. Why did the citizens of the US think the Military Industrial Complex as President Eisenhower explained, had now become so benign?

Expand full comment

I wish I knew why myself. The initial gaslighting was very successful at some point and then off it went. I bought much of it myself. I see no indication around my circle that any blindfolds are off. So alarming.

Expand full comment

Thanks for the like Janet. On further reflection I comment elsewhere in this comment section of virons and communication. You may find that interesting. I don't write a stack. Just comment from time to time.

be well!

Expand full comment

Outstanding, Marc. Many lightbulb moments for me in this one. I remember the bouncing balls post so well! I’m a visual artist and learner so that video alternately thrilled and chilled me.

Expand full comment

I am convinced.

Expand full comment

Thank you, Dorota.

Hopefully, you can convert many others!

Expand full comment

Hi Marc,

As Dotota noted there is difficulty in communicating ideas with other people. Some how people in general have been siloed and hold strongly to their views.

I believe the dramatic change in our environment since the Industrial Revolution plays a large part in this. However the SarsCov2 era since 2020 has made this worse.

Human, genus, species and life in general have communicated via viron (https://www.quantamagazine.org/cells-talk-in-a-language-that-looks-like-viruses-20180502/) as well as other means.

When masks and lock-downs were mandated out of fear, people recycled their own virons etc. which further siloed them.

Without having the environment at large (in particular parks, forest, sea shores and meadow lands) with its multitude of virons to inform biological conversations and communications our minds close down to what is being recycled.

Technology has reinforced this as it cuts the direct link between people, species and environment, and so the virons that inform our biology.

How is biological communication (to me the most ancient and honest kind) that informs us to be renewed?

If you have time I appreciate your thoughts and insights on this subject.

Thank you.

Expand full comment

Unfortunately I am not very good at convincing other people. I failed to convince right people when arguing for my approach to stufying language. I am a physicist and linguist studying language quantitatively within the philosophical framework of Mario Bung (systemism cum emergentism. I argue for there being probabilistic quantitative correlations in linguistic corpora and then check my hypotheses. (My summarizing article describing the rationale behind my approach is about to come out in Meatascience this spring ( My most recent article on a related topic appeared at the same spot a year ago https://philpapers.org/pub/850098 . To cut my story short I lost my job at a Polish university and was smeared by local powers that be still claiming that language cannot be described probabilistically. But I shall try to do a better job presenting your theory. :) "Science progresses one funeral at a time" - attributed to Planck

Expand full comment

This is a great read. Thank you.

Expand full comment

Thank you, Phil.

Feel free to share it.

Have a beautiful Sunday.

Expand full comment