Vaccines Effectiveness Myth (Part 3) - Despite the false narrative, clinical data continues to show that natural immunity is best - Covid Myth Buster Series
Feb 19, 2022·edited Feb 19, 2022Liked by Marc Girardot
Salut Marc-
Have you caught CSI 43 yet, from Thurs Feb 17? Pierre Sonigo makes a very good presentation there that complements well your writings on immunity. Have you come across anyone (à part toi, bien sûr!) providing such perspective in English? I have not.
I think if someone were to present such an explanation to a broad anglophone audience, it could be a huge help. I could see you having a good conversation with someone like Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying on this topic.
He was so good -- calm and knowledgeable. I feel like I'd have a chance of tempting a couple of my friends onto Team Reality if I could get them to listen to him.
I don't know how the invitations work for shows like Bret's. I might have a couple ideas, will let you know.
Once the immune response fades after six months or so and the immune system enters "sentinel mode", I assume there would be some lag between reinfection and a renewed immune response. Would it be possible to get such a massive inoculum that the reinfection could outrun the immune response, especially if other factors like stress and diet hindered the immune response?
I'm reminded of Dr. Jackie Stone's description of getting COVID twice in her "In Discussion With" video (@17:00, still available at Osysee). First time was in early 2020, probably the original strain, and was relatively mild. Second time was a massive exposure to the South African strain in December, 2020, which developed into severe COVID (she describes knocking back a single 100 mg dose of ivermectin as a Hail Mary to pull her through). They can afford very little testing in Zimbabwe so it's possible Dr. Stone's first infection was not in fact COVID. Still, at the time of the interview she was convinced both infections were COVID.
Yes, innoculum is key. Even if you have mucosal immunity, some will seroconvert, some won't, and for example HCW in hospitals ended up being symptomatic.
You are perfectly correct. My understanding is it's a numbers game: the more soldiers you start with the further you go...
I have a cousin that got Covid last year, in Brazil, probably gamma variant…then he got vaccinated and this week he got Covid again, probably Omicron…I guess that the vaccines got over his memory T and B-cells and predisposed him to this new infection…I’m reading a lot about it and seems the way 3 or 4 jabs are more susceptible to infection.regards
Thank you for reposting this. I did not see this originally. I have been trying to explain to my family in bits and pieces what I have read in so many places. Now I can share this with them so they can get a complete story at once. I recovered, natural immunity, and had to defend myself against three doctors and my family who dismissively scoffed at my telling them exactly what you state in this post.
Feb 2, 2022·edited Feb 2, 2022Liked by Marc Girardot
Let's see, immune system response to a single highly mutable antigen vs whole live virus...which one is likely to result in robust, durable immunity? A reasonably intelligent high school youngster who paid attention in biology class could probably sort that one out.
Within a Stay Of Action petition filed with the European Medicines Agency requesting that the Phase III Trials in Germany be suspended until serious procedural flaws are corrected, Former Prizer Chief Science Officer, Dr. Michael Yeadon, claims that the COVID vaccine has the potential to cause infertility in women, specifically that the Pfizer COVID vaccine as well as other COVID vaccines currently in Phase III trials are:
…expected to induce the formation of humoral antibodies against spike proteins of SARS-CoV-2. Syncytin-1 (see Gallaher, B., “Response to nCoV2019 Against Backdrop of Endogenous Retroviruses” –
...which is derived from human endogenous retroviruses (HERV) and is responsible for the development of a placenta in mammals and humans and is therefore an essential prerequisite for a successful pregnancy, is also found in homologous form in the spike proteins of SARS viruses.
.................
Vaccines have long been used as vehicles to deliver sterilizing agents to women, and not just in the Third World.
And we have been told repeatedly that pregnant women should be among the first to get their COVID vaccines — right on cue.
As one of its primary stated goals, we know that the Bill Gates Foundation — one of the prime movers behind this fake pandemic — is actively involved in world depopulation.
It’s almost inconceivable that having sterility as one of the “unintended” consequences of these COVID vaccines wasn’t discussed in their board meetings.
EXCLUSIVE - Former Pfizer VP: ‘Your government is lying to you in a way that could lead to your death.’
‘Look out the window, and think, “why is my government lying to me about something so fundamental?” Because, I think the answer is, they are going to kill you using this method. They’re going to kill you and your family.’
I think my good friend Mike has reviewed his position on that...last time we spoke, he said they weren't as smart as he initially thought, and I agree. They are killing people bc they are idiots, lazy, corrupt, selfish and ego-centric...not because they are super sharp.
Thank you for crafting an elegant and easy to read summary for the common man detailing the scientific information coming to the forefront, albeit yet to be recognized and fully acknowledged in policy. It will happen. Truth will prevail. It has been heartening to see people rise up in their own way, in their respective areas of strength, to defend humanity as a whole. The truckers, scientists, and the lawyers are hard at it right now. Dr. Luc Montagnier said "It is time for the artists" and I believe he is correct. Next, imagination will be the most powerful tool we can utilize as we create a better future and systems for our grandchildren and theirs.
Marc I wish to include your updated table showing Deaths Reported to 22 January on VAERS, the EU, and YellowCard, but am having difficulty sourcing the data/numbers, for the purpose of providing reference links to your chart, particularly the EU data for the Deaths Figure of 36,267
Can you please direct me to the EU report for that 36,267 figure?
Mark, thank you so much for this detailed explanation of natural immunity. I’ve been puzzling over the Covid 19 natural immunity issue for sometime. I’m curious for thoughts on the following: Folks continue to get the flu every year despite recovering the flu the year before. If Covid 19 is to be with us (like the flu), how will Covid 19 natural immunity be any different?
There's 2 levels of immunity: mucosal (sterilising and preemptive) that last the duration of an epidemic (else epidemic would be never ending), and systemic (non sterilising and reactive) that is lifelong. Current vaccines give u systemic immunity just like old colds would give u a robust immunity, but with a delay, hence with symptoms. Mucosal immunity will kills off at the point of entry the infection, avoiding fever and the loss of many healthy cells.
This is the reason why Asian/African high density countries have had limited deaths... Huge numbers of people get infected every year, and so they have a natural sterilising immunity (for example: Yokohama had 47+% folks with pre-existing IgA in the saliva that were neutralising).
Wow! What a journey you have taken us on. So well researched and written. I can honestly say I was on the verge of tears. Why hasn't this information been available to the public before? How many pointless deaths? Thank you for your courage and fearless research. When this is over there we will know who the real heroes are. No more legacy media and sacred cows. Our leaders should be ashamed, CDC, FDA, NIH, White House, are all captured, false hero's like Bright, Fauci, Collins and Danzak. I believe this was released with the Wuhan games, many military have come out and told us they contracted something like flu and many of my patients said they contracted in October 2019. We have been battered and bruised fighting for the truth. That so few villains could get away with so much nonsense is a testament to their preparedness. When I asks friends who owns Fox News, the say Murdock, and I laugh. How about Blackrock and Vanguard, they are the puppet masters, Citizens United and anonymous unlimited dark money, and they point the finger at bitcoin. LOL! Gates, Sergei Brin, Bezos, Zuckerberg, surveillance state dystopia. Please continue to do what you have beed doing, virtue has it's own reward, my friend.
Thank you for your kind words. Just doing what I believe is right with whatever means I have. Think the dam is cracking, but people need simple scientific ammunition to fight the corrupt narratives.
What’s interesting is that just last week my employer sent around an email imploring us to get boosted with a section at the bottom citing “experts”.
One so-called expert doctor answered the exact question regarding natural immunity bs vaccines and directly countered these findings. Now, I am pretty well read on this stuff and I just about quit then and there.
Anyone with a brain already knows this stuff. The question is how many will die because they have been poisoned by the vaccine? And what will we do with the criminals who promoted, supported and vaccinated 4.5 billion people?
Here is two my posts on these subjects on SubStack:
Good... We need to start to view (and treat) the perpetrators of this genocide like the criminals that they are. It is my hope that their crimes will be permanently etched into the consciousness of the human race and that in 500 years our descendants will still pledge that this will never happen again. I also hope that this will be the end of the totalitarians' attempts at world domination. They must be forever crushed wherever and whenever their evil rises up in the world.
Great article. Besides less immunity, how does taking a booster after having Covid affect Vaccine Enhanced diseases and Antibody Dependent Enhancement?
I personally believe ADE is overstated. It gives Abs too central of a role, when the reality is early fever combined with T-cells are likely more important. If Abs have affinity with healthy cells, that's already bad in of itself. Specially if in a grand way. I think these theories have been developed to justify the screw-ups of pharma vaccinating Recovered and having bad outcomes... To me it's a scapegoat.
Salut Marc-
Have you caught CSI 43 yet, from Thurs Feb 17? Pierre Sonigo makes a very good presentation there that complements well your writings on immunity. Have you come across anyone (à part toi, bien sûr!) providing such perspective in English? I have not.
I think if someone were to present such an explanation to a broad anglophone audience, it could be a huge help. I could see you having a good conversation with someone like Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying on this topic.
CSI #43: https://crowdbunker.com/v/sTxf83wm
Eric
Yes, I saw Pierre's presentation at the CSI and have had multiple interactions with him.
Was happy he finally came out.
Brent has never proposed to me. I would be happy to have a chat with him.
He was so good -- calm and knowledgeable. I feel like I'd have a chance of tempting a couple of my friends onto Team Reality if I could get them to listen to him.
I don't know how the invitations work for shows like Bret's. I might have a couple ideas, will let you know.
Bon courage!
Once the immune response fades after six months or so and the immune system enters "sentinel mode", I assume there would be some lag between reinfection and a renewed immune response. Would it be possible to get such a massive inoculum that the reinfection could outrun the immune response, especially if other factors like stress and diet hindered the immune response?
I'm reminded of Dr. Jackie Stone's description of getting COVID twice in her "In Discussion With" video (@17:00, still available at Osysee). First time was in early 2020, probably the original strain, and was relatively mild. Second time was a massive exposure to the South African strain in December, 2020, which developed into severe COVID (she describes knocking back a single 100 mg dose of ivermectin as a Hail Mary to pull her through). They can afford very little testing in Zimbabwe so it's possible Dr. Stone's first infection was not in fact COVID. Still, at the time of the interview she was convinced both infections were COVID.
It's a very good point Charlie.
Yes, innoculum is key. Even if you have mucosal immunity, some will seroconvert, some won't, and for example HCW in hospitals ended up being symptomatic.
You are perfectly correct. My understanding is it's a numbers game: the more soldiers you start with the further you go...
Hi…I think death toll in VAERS is 22k,, no?
I have a cousin that got Covid last year, in Brazil, probably gamma variant…then he got vaccinated and this week he got Covid again, probably Omicron…I guess that the vaccines got over his memory T and B-cells and predisposed him to this new infection…I’m reading a lot about it and seems the way 3 or 4 jabs are more susceptible to infection.regards
In European database it's 38k.
It' s surprising indeed that Recovered get reinfected. Simply a yr later. There's a lot of false positive also.
Thank you for reposting this. I did not see this originally. I have been trying to explain to my family in bits and pieces what I have read in so many places. Now I can share this with them so they can get a complete story at once. I recovered, natural immunity, and had to defend myself against three doctors and my family who dismissively scoffed at my telling them exactly what you state in this post.
Even if your mucosal immunity wanes, your systemic immunity will always be better than the vaccine which is narrower in terms of targets.
Let's see, immune system response to a single highly mutable antigen vs whole live virus...which one is likely to result in robust, durable immunity? A reasonably intelligent high school youngster who paid attention in biology class could probably sort that one out.
Well just had an attack on LinkedIn from a supposed PhD and BioPharma strategist... so I guess they got brainwashed somewhere.
Former Top Pfizer Scientist Michael Yeadon Claims COVID Vaccines May Cause Infertility In Women
Posted by EU Times on Dec 8th, 2020
https://www.eutimes.net/2020/12/former-top-pfizer-scientist-michael-yeadon-claims-covid-vaccines-may-cause-infertility-in-women/
Within a Stay Of Action petition filed with the European Medicines Agency requesting that the Phase III Trials in Germany be suspended until serious procedural flaws are corrected, Former Prizer Chief Science Officer, Dr. Michael Yeadon, claims that the COVID vaccine has the potential to cause infertility in women, specifically that the Pfizer COVID vaccine as well as other COVID vaccines currently in Phase III trials are:
…expected to induce the formation of humoral antibodies against spike proteins of SARS-CoV-2. Syncytin-1 (see Gallaher, B., “Response to nCoV2019 Against Backdrop of Endogenous Retroviruses” –
https://virological.org/t/response-to-ncov2019-against-backdrop-of-endogenous-retroviruses/396
...which is derived from human endogenous retroviruses (HERV) and is responsible for the development of a placenta in mammals and humans and is therefore an essential prerequisite for a successful pregnancy, is also found in homologous form in the spike proteins of SARS viruses.
.................
Vaccines have long been used as vehicles to deliver sterilizing agents to women, and not just in the Third World.
And we have been told repeatedly that pregnant women should be among the first to get their COVID vaccines — right on cue.
As one of its primary stated goals, we know that the Bill Gates Foundation — one of the prime movers behind this fake pandemic — is actively involved in world depopulation.
It’s almost inconceivable that having sterility as one of the “unintended” consequences of these COVID vaccines wasn’t discussed in their board meetings.
EXCLUSIVE - Former Pfizer VP: ‘Your government is lying to you in a way that could lead to your death.’
‘Look out the window, and think, “why is my government lying to me about something so fundamental?” Because, I think the answer is, they are going to kill you using this method. They’re going to kill you and your family.’
Wed Apr 7, 2021 - 8:47 am EST
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/exclusive-former-pfizer-vp-your-government-is-lying-to-you-in-a-way-that-could-lead-to-your-death
I think my good friend Mike has reviewed his position on that...last time we spoke, he said they weren't as smart as he initially thought, and I agree. They are killing people bc they are idiots, lazy, corrupt, selfish and ego-centric...not because they are super sharp.
Pfizer Scientists: ‘Your [COVID] Antibodies Are Better Than The [Pfizer] Vaccination.'
1,679,207 views Oct 4, 2021
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=On5RYFbcxWY
Thank you for crafting an elegant and easy to read summary for the common man detailing the scientific information coming to the forefront, albeit yet to be recognized and fully acknowledged in policy. It will happen. Truth will prevail. It has been heartening to see people rise up in their own way, in their respective areas of strength, to defend humanity as a whole. The truckers, scientists, and the lawyers are hard at it right now. Dr. Luc Montagnier said "It is time for the artists" and I believe he is correct. Next, imagination will be the most powerful tool we can utilize as we create a better future and systems for our grandchildren and theirs.
Hi Marc,
Very good revisiting this article..
We have initiated legal proceedings here in Australia seeking our drugs regulator the TGA, suspend or cancel these vaccines. Details available here: https://avn.org.au/avn-takes-tga-to-federal-court/
Marc I wish to include your updated table showing Deaths Reported to 22 January on VAERS, the EU, and YellowCard, but am having difficulty sourcing the data/numbers, for the purpose of providing reference links to your chart, particularly the EU data for the Deaths Figure of 36,267
Can you please direct me to the EU report for that 36,267 figure?
Thank you,
Julian
juliangillespie69@gmail.com
Julian,
Went to Eudravigilance database and hand calculated it, as of 29/1/22:
Pfizer 17,578
Jensen 2,420
Modern 11,008
AstraZeneca 7977
Total 38,983 deaths
And all it took was 145 studies to prove that natural immunity is superior! Yes, I'm being facetious. Thanks for another excellent article.
I know. That an MBA has to write about that is ridiculous. 🙄
You know more about this than most MDs.
First personal attack on LinkedIn today...
Most MDs know nothing that wouldn't be difficult. ;-)
Mark, thank you so much for this detailed explanation of natural immunity. I’ve been puzzling over the Covid 19 natural immunity issue for sometime. I’m curious for thoughts on the following: Folks continue to get the flu every year despite recovering the flu the year before. If Covid 19 is to be with us (like the flu), how will Covid 19 natural immunity be any different?
Hi Beth,
I was puzzled at this for quite some time...
Here's the answer.
There's 2 levels of immunity: mucosal (sterilising and preemptive) that last the duration of an epidemic (else epidemic would be never ending), and systemic (non sterilising and reactive) that is lifelong. Current vaccines give u systemic immunity just like old colds would give u a robust immunity, but with a delay, hence with symptoms. Mucosal immunity will kills off at the point of entry the infection, avoiding fever and the loss of many healthy cells.
This is the reason why Asian/African high density countries have had limited deaths... Huge numbers of people get infected every year, and so they have a natural sterilising immunity (for example: Yokohama had 47+% folks with pre-existing IgA in the saliva that were neutralising).
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41577-019-0143-6
Thanks for the direction, it took me here.
Ahah Florian Kramer is sold off...
Read my other articles you'll find plenty of references:
notably "much ado about nothing"
There are also a few reference in this paper at the start with links 1 2 3 I believe
Wow! What a journey you have taken us on. So well researched and written. I can honestly say I was on the verge of tears. Why hasn't this information been available to the public before? How many pointless deaths? Thank you for your courage and fearless research. When this is over there we will know who the real heroes are. No more legacy media and sacred cows. Our leaders should be ashamed, CDC, FDA, NIH, White House, are all captured, false hero's like Bright, Fauci, Collins and Danzak. I believe this was released with the Wuhan games, many military have come out and told us they contracted something like flu and many of my patients said they contracted in October 2019. We have been battered and bruised fighting for the truth. That so few villains could get away with so much nonsense is a testament to their preparedness. When I asks friends who owns Fox News, the say Murdock, and I laugh. How about Blackrock and Vanguard, they are the puppet masters, Citizens United and anonymous unlimited dark money, and they point the finger at bitcoin. LOL! Gates, Sergei Brin, Bezos, Zuckerberg, surveillance state dystopia. Please continue to do what you have beed doing, virtue has it's own reward, my friend.
Thank you for your kind words. Just doing what I believe is right with whatever means I have. Think the dam is cracking, but people need simple scientific ammunition to fight the corrupt narratives.
Best. Marc
What’s interesting is that just last week my employer sent around an email imploring us to get boosted with a section at the bottom citing “experts”.
One so-called expert doctor answered the exact question regarding natural immunity bs vaccines and directly countered these findings. Now, I am pretty well read on this stuff and I just about quit then and there.
Anyone with a brain already knows this stuff. The question is how many will die because they have been poisoned by the vaccine? And what will we do with the criminals who promoted, supported and vaccinated 4.5 billion people?
Here is two my posts on these subjects on SubStack:
https://lawrencebutts.substack.com/p/will-there-be-room-in-argentina-for
https://lawrencebutts.substack.com/p/depopulation-realities-for-pure-bloods
Am with you on making sure the guilty ones don't get away.
Good... We need to start to view (and treat) the perpetrators of this genocide like the criminals that they are. It is my hope that their crimes will be permanently etched into the consciousness of the human race and that in 500 years our descendants will still pledge that this will never happen again. I also hope that this will be the end of the totalitarians' attempts at world domination. They must be forever crushed wherever and whenever their evil rises up in the world.
Great article. Besides less immunity, how does taking a booster after having Covid affect Vaccine Enhanced diseases and Antibody Dependent Enhancement?
Gina,
I personally believe ADE is overstated. It gives Abs too central of a role, when the reality is early fever combined with T-cells are likely more important. If Abs have affinity with healthy cells, that's already bad in of itself. Specially if in a grand way. I think these theories have been developed to justify the screw-ups of pharma vaccinating Recovered and having bad outcomes... To me it's a scapegoat.