"Inadvertent Intravascular is Rare" Myth - Despite Aspiration, Experienced Nurses Hit the Vascular System in 1.9% of Injections according to a 2015 Study
Hello to you all! On May 13th there will be an international event for all of those who suffered from this horrendous last few years. The most visible victims are the ones dead or maimed by the shots and those who died from untreated cv or other infections and diseases, who did not fit well to the narrative.
But there are many of us who suffered in various ways - discrimination, insults, being outcast from the workplace, public life and places, or simply put in repeated lockdowns.
Could you please share if there is anything planned in your country / region / town? It would be interesting and we still have the time to use and improve creative ideas, so that it could not get silenced and would not go unnoticed.
Thanks JayD. Unfortunately because I'm B12 deficient, it doesn't seem to absorb unless it's injected 12 weekly for life. I tried sublingual and it didn't work. But thank you for the suggestions, I appreciate it. I hadn't heard of it in a mouth spray. I will look into it, thank you!
Hi Marc, Does this change anything? Circulating Spike Protein Detected in Post–COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine Myocarditis https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/epdf/10.1161/CIRCULATIONAHA.122.061025 CONCLUSIONS: Immunoprofiling of vaccinated adolescents and young adults revealed that the mRNA vaccine–induced immune responses did not differ between individuals who developed myocarditis and individuals who did not. However, free spike antigen was detected in the blood of adolescents and young adults who developed post-mRNA vaccine myocarditis, advancing insight into its potential underlying cause
This study is comparing different times, and so indeed myocarditis patients seem to have spike, but they have the same level of spike as healthy vaccinated in Ogata et al. Frankly manipulative study.
Interesting substack article from Jessica Rose - in which she talks about intravascular injection of the covid vaccines...... https://jessicar.substack.com/p/are-red-blood-cells-agglutinating?s=03 The thrombotic bus: Are red blood cells agglutinating in injected people because of zeta potential disruption by spike? Is PEG in the COVID shots aiding and abetting agglutination?
Excerpt: For now, my gut tells me this is enough PEG to disrupt the zeta potential of RBCs. This idea also lends itself to the hypothesis that aspiration during injection is a determinant of adverse event frequency. The reason I say this is because if there is, in fact, enough PEG in the blood - assuming no aspiration and subsequent injection of product into the blood stream via a vessel - to lower the zeta potential of RBCs to cause them to clump, then we would only see a fraction of injected people suffering agglutination of their RBCs, ie: the fraction that got this stuff injected directly to the blood. And this is what we are seeing. I would also imagine that repeated doses of the PEG-coated LNP capsules would probably exacerbate any RBC agglutination that had already ensued.
Mark, your usual brilliance. "Carnal country", btw, could be misinterpreted as "lots of fucking".....
You have resolved the problem I had as to why much higher myocarditis after the second jab. If you use the same incompetent jabber, then the intravascular injection is probably pretty common twice in a row, leading to cumulative adverse reactions. What do you think?
Sorry if I have misunderstood, but is there a problem if any intramuscular injection goes into a vessel, or just the MRNA injection? I have a 3 monthly B12 intramuscular injection, and would really like to know if its a similar issue if it goes into a vessel? They don't aspirate and the whole vial is empty in seconds, as they push the plunger very fast. Thanks to anyone that can help.
I don't know. I will look into it. I told my wife to go easy on the B12 injections also. I would encourage an aspiration and vr lw injection as a safeguard. You always run the risk of saturation. I doubt the B12 is cytotoxic, but it can possibly saturate cells.
mountain bike rider Kyle Warner has said that the second the technician pushed the plunger on the covid needle in his arm, he tasted something metallic. he had horrific possibly career ending side effects. other very damaged vaccine victims have reported this too.
Thinking about slow injections - seems it would be almost trivial to invent a slow injection device that would push the plunger at a tightly controlled rate (eg. 5 min duration). Thus keeping the simplicity of the basic hypodermic needle. A prototype for clinical trial purposes (esp in mice) would be technically straightforward.
Trying to understand a bit more of your explanation. A lot of information in one shot.
Is there a specific aspect of the vaccine (such as the spike) that is causing the endothelial risk? If so, what about similar components from an actual infection by the virus? Is this from the LNP? What about conventional vaccines (such as the J&J adenovirus vector)?
when a virus penetrates the vascular system, the virions are liberated one cell at a time, and so randomly disseminated throughout the body with a very small concentration, which means transfection will be spread across the entire system.
When injected in IM, a very high concentration is sent thru the muscle and the lymphatic system. a small bolus might reach the vascular system.
but if directly injected into the blood stream the concentration facing each endothelial cell can be 300 LNPs to 1 cell, with the risk of carpet bombing the area.
I'm not understanding why a perfect IM injection doesn't still just rupture the capillaries and cells in the immediate needle tip area and wash into venules almost instantly. Needles might be 150 micron dia or bigger and even a few ml of fluid is huge. Using your city analogy - dumping a cubic kilometer of water onto 4 houses - what happens?
How does anyone suppose the deltoid muscle is being supplied necessities if not through blood. The entire idea of not possibly hitting a blood vessel is preposterous.
Marc: You correctly point out that there should be aspiration and no rapid injection. However, I still believe there is danger in the vaccines themselves. I believe that the best way to protect yourself is by a healthy lifestyle and I am very proud to say I am an anti-vaxxer.
Not saying the contrary. I am simply trying to understand the adverse events and their cause. I am also trying to avoid people being harmed even if people decide they want a vaccine.
Remember my theory applies to all vaccines and anything injected.
I keep wondering if injecting only water directly into a vein or creating a bolus by injecting water too quickly would cause any damage? If it wouldn't, then improper injection technique is not the only issue. I believe the "cause" of adverse events is not just injection technique, but also what is being injected....the vaccines themselves. Cheers.
I never said the bolus is the only thing. I am using the term cytotoxic bolus theory bc the LNPs are cytotoxic since when they are uptaken the immune system will trigger the cell destruction.
Saturation of a protein. Can also be cytotoxic I suppose, and it is possible that pure water (non oxygenated) could be cytotoxic depleting some cells of oxygen, but it's doubtful.
(1) if you avoid harming the bone marrow and Lymph nodes, it would protect your immune system. So it is key.
(2) in terms of antibodies, people who get a true IM injection, equivalent to a slow injection, have a good response. The same
(3) these vaccine are essentially useless. They can't help those who need them bc they are immune depleted. They don't add much in term. Of antigen targets. But more importantly they are system. And reactive, when they should be mucosal and preemptive.
While I am confident that poor injection technique (not aspirating and injecting rapidly) can greatly increase the amount of mRNA that gets into circulatory system, even with perfect technique, some of it will end up all over the body, transfecting various organs and tissues. So no matter whether someone promises to #AspirateAndInjectRealSlow, I'll pass on these shots.
But the blood-gut barrier is in the inner lining of the intestines right? It blocks the tissues from coming in contact with the food we eat, but it doesn't protect any cell from blood vessels located in nearby tissues.
No the gut blood barrier is the interior lining of your intestinal blood vessels. As such it protects from bacteria and toxins entering the blood stream.
> Synovial joints contain synovial tissue that is divided into two well-defined areas: (i) the lining layer, which is formed by fibroblasts and macrophages that build an epithelial-like barrier flanking the intra-articular fluid, bone, or cartilage, as well as ligaments and tendons
Is it a tight-junction in the same sense as the Blood-Brain Barrier, Blood-Testis Barrier, Blood-Milk Barrier, Blood-Eyes Barrier? Does this barrier have the function of filtering substances from blood and neighboring tissues from entering the synovial fluids?
Hello to you all! On May 13th there will be an international event for all of those who suffered from this horrendous last few years. The most visible victims are the ones dead or maimed by the shots and those who died from untreated cv or other infections and diseases, who did not fit well to the narrative.
But there are many of us who suffered in various ways - discrimination, insults, being outcast from the workplace, public life and places, or simply put in repeated lockdowns.
Could you please share if there is anything planned in your country / region / town? It would be interesting and we still have the time to use and improve creative ideas, so that it could not get silenced and would not go unnoticed.
Thank you all!
Thanks JayD. Unfortunately because I'm B12 deficient, it doesn't seem to absorb unless it's injected 12 weekly for life. I tried sublingual and it didn't work. But thank you for the suggestions, I appreciate it. I hadn't heard of it in a mouth spray. I will look into it, thank you!
Hi Marc, Does this change anything? Circulating Spike Protein Detected in Post–COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine Myocarditis https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/epdf/10.1161/CIRCULATIONAHA.122.061025 CONCLUSIONS: Immunoprofiling of vaccinated adolescents and young adults revealed that the mRNA vaccine–induced immune responses did not differ between individuals who developed myocarditis and individuals who did not. However, free spike antigen was detected in the blood of adolescents and young adults who developed post-mRNA vaccine myocarditis, advancing insight into its potential underlying cause
Adrian, I thought I had answered.
This study is comparing different times, and so indeed myocarditis patients seem to have spike, but they have the same level of spike as healthy vaccinated in Ogata et al. Frankly manipulative study.
Interesting substack article from Jessica Rose - in which she talks about intravascular injection of the covid vaccines...... https://jessicar.substack.com/p/are-red-blood-cells-agglutinating?s=03 The thrombotic bus: Are red blood cells agglutinating in injected people because of zeta potential disruption by spike? Is PEG in the COVID shots aiding and abetting agglutination?
Excerpt: For now, my gut tells me this is enough PEG to disrupt the zeta potential of RBCs. This idea also lends itself to the hypothesis that aspiration during injection is a determinant of adverse event frequency. The reason I say this is because if there is, in fact, enough PEG in the blood - assuming no aspiration and subsequent injection of product into the blood stream via a vessel - to lower the zeta potential of RBCs to cause them to clump, then we would only see a fraction of injected people suffering agglutination of their RBCs, ie: the fraction that got this stuff injected directly to the blood. And this is what we are seeing. I would also imagine that repeated doses of the PEG-coated LNP capsules would probably exacerbate any RBC agglutination that had already ensued.
Hi Adrian, I had missed this comment.
happy my friend Jessica is contemplating my work.
She is a very smart and cool Lady.
Mark, your usual brilliance. "Carnal country", btw, could be misinterpreted as "lots of fucking".....
You have resolved the problem I had as to why much higher myocarditis after the second jab. If you use the same incompetent jabber, then the intravascular injection is probably pretty common twice in a row, leading to cumulative adverse reactions. What do you think?
In the mice, they injected twice a 10x concentration in the muscle and it did damage...so repeating is indeed bad.
Tango is very carnal, it was an attempt to talk about meat and Tangoi together..;-)
Never was much of a writer ahahha
Sorry if I have misunderstood, but is there a problem if any intramuscular injection goes into a vessel, or just the MRNA injection? I have a 3 monthly B12 intramuscular injection, and would really like to know if its a similar issue if it goes into a vessel? They don't aspirate and the whole vial is empty in seconds, as they push the plunger very fast. Thanks to anyone that can help.
try a mouth spray or sublingual instead - no aspiration needed = safe!
I don't know. I will look into it. I told my wife to go easy on the B12 injections also. I would encourage an aspiration and vr lw injection as a safeguard. You always run the risk of saturation. I doubt the B12 is cytotoxic, but it can possibly saturate cells.
Thank you Marc. I would greatly appreciate that. It is extremely interesting and helpful and I appreciate your time and knowledge.
If analphylactic shock is possible, I would recommend aspiration as well as slow injection.
https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5&q=B12+injection+adverse+effects&oq=B12+injection+adverse+e#d=gs_qabs&t=1672787689984&u=%23p%3DHp_0I3YVC5QJ
This is so interested and helpful, thank you Marrc
Happy you liked it.
Thank you for taking the time. To read me.
Happy New Year
mountain bike rider Kyle Warner has said that the second the technician pushed the plunger on the covid needle in his arm, he tasted something metallic. he had horrific possibly career ending side effects. other very damaged vaccine victims have reported this too.
so much for staying in the injection site.
That was a direct intravascular injection. It's a typical sign.
Thinking about slow injections - seems it would be almost trivial to invent a slow injection device that would push the plunger at a tightly controlled rate (eg. 5 min duration). Thus keeping the simplicity of the basic hypodermic needle. A prototype for clinical trial purposes (esp in mice) would be technically straightforward.
Absolutely
Trying to understand a bit more of your explanation. A lot of information in one shot.
Is there a specific aspect of the vaccine (such as the spike) that is causing the endothelial risk? If so, what about similar components from an actual infection by the virus? Is this from the LNP? What about conventional vaccines (such as the J&J adenovirus vector)?
Welcome. Thank you for taking the time to comment.
You need to read:
https://covidmythbuster.substack.com/p/when-and-how-can-vaccine-particles
no, the endothelium is not at risk in a healthy individual as proven in:
https://covidmythbuster.substack.com/p/c19-induced-myocarditis-was-a-delusion
when a virus penetrates the vascular system, the virions are liberated one cell at a time, and so randomly disseminated throughout the body with a very small concentration, which means transfection will be spread across the entire system.
When injected in IM, a very high concentration is sent thru the muscle and the lymphatic system. a small bolus might reach the vascular system.
but if directly injected into the blood stream the concentration facing each endothelial cell can be 300 LNPs to 1 cell, with the risk of carpet bombing the area.
I'm not understanding why a perfect IM injection doesn't still just rupture the capillaries and cells in the immediate needle tip area and wash into venules almost instantly. Needles might be 150 micron dia or bigger and even a few ml of fluid is huge. Using your city analogy - dumping a cubic kilometer of water onto 4 houses - what happens?
Well that's probably what happens in some cases.
Intravenous Injection of Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) mRNA Vaccine Can Induce Acute Myopericarditis in Mouse Model - PubMed
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34406358/
Yes I have known about those for over a year. It makes my theory a certainty.
Thank you.
Good luck with this campaign. Those doing the injecting as well as the one being injected are operating like sheep
How does anyone suppose the deltoid muscle is being supplied necessities if not through blood. The entire idea of not possibly hitting a blood vessel is preposterous.
Yes, but isn't it arteries, veins, capillaries and then interstitial fluid? It's the latter you never seem to hear about
I know it is nevertheless the answer I was given and I am still given today by many.
I know it's not you Marc.
Marc: You correctly point out that there should be aspiration and no rapid injection. However, I still believe there is danger in the vaccines themselves. I believe that the best way to protect yourself is by a healthy lifestyle and I am very proud to say I am an anti-vaxxer.
Not saying the contrary. I am simply trying to understand the adverse events and their cause. I am also trying to avoid people being harmed even if people decide they want a vaccine.
Remember my theory applies to all vaccines and anything injected.
I keep wondering if injecting only water directly into a vein or creating a bolus by injecting water too quickly would cause any damage? If it wouldn't, then improper injection technique is not the only issue. I believe the "cause" of adverse events is not just injection technique, but also what is being injected....the vaccines themselves. Cheers.
I never said the bolus is the only thing. I am using the term cytotoxic bolus theory bc the LNPs are cytotoxic since when they are uptaken the immune system will trigger the cell destruction.
Saturation of a protein. Can also be cytotoxic I suppose, and it is possible that pure water (non oxygenated) could be cytotoxic depleting some cells of oxygen, but it's doubtful.
What impact would slow injection have on efficacy of protection in the case of vaccines?
Different ways to look at your question.
(1) if you avoid harming the bone marrow and Lymph nodes, it would protect your immune system. So it is key.
(2) in terms of antibodies, people who get a true IM injection, equivalent to a slow injection, have a good response. The same
(3) these vaccine are essentially useless. They can't help those who need them bc they are immune depleted. They don't add much in term. Of antigen targets. But more importantly they are system. And reactive, when they should be mucosal and preemptive.
While I am confident that poor injection technique (not aspirating and injecting rapidly) can greatly increase the amount of mRNA that gets into circulatory system, even with perfect technique, some of it will end up all over the body, transfecting various organs and tissues. So no matter whether someone promises to #AspirateAndInjectRealSlow, I'll pass on these shots.
Well that's likely the most reasonable way forward.
Some.just will be having or, and so it's a way to avoid going to hell in the process.
But u are absolutely right, not injecting is best.
What will be the safest tissue or organ in the body from LNP transfection? Or the tissue with the least LNP uptake and least impacted?
(1)Muscles take up the most, and can regenerate.
(2)Skin also takes up a lot and is resilient.
(3) I suspect the intestines to be very resilient but the gut blood barrier can be a major problem going forward
But the blood-gut barrier is in the inner lining of the intestines right? It blocks the tissues from coming in contact with the food we eat, but it doesn't protect any cell from blood vessels located in nearby tissues.
No the gut blood barrier is the interior lining of your intestinal blood vessels. As such it protects from bacteria and toxins entering the blood stream.
I am confused, so that's a barrier that separated the intestinal stem cells and the blood vessels?
What do you think about the cells in the articular cartilage in joints with the presence of this "Blood-Synovial Barrier"?
https://core.ac.uk/download/pdf/39329895.pdf
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1002188/
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1471490621000508
> Synovial joints contain synovial tissue that is divided into two well-defined areas: (i) the lining layer, which is formed by fibroblasts and macrophages that build an epithelial-like barrier flanking the intra-articular fluid, bone, or cartilage, as well as ligaments and tendons
Is it a tight-junction in the same sense as the Blood-Brain Barrier, Blood-Testis Barrier, Blood-Milk Barrier, Blood-Eyes Barrier? Does this barrier have the function of filtering substances from blood and neighboring tissues from entering the synovial fluids?