Infection Fatality Myth - If you are still fighting people who believe the COVID fatality rate is 1% or more, tell them it translates to an impossible 17% hospitalisation rate!
When the government pays for covid, then by God, "everything" is gonna be covid!
Me, Easter dinner 2021, all squinty-eyed, asking my hospital-administrator nurse sister-in-law "don't you think it's weird that 80-yro to 100-yro people are no longer dying of natural causes, like "old age", everybody is just dying from covid??"
And completely straight faced she replied "no, it's not weird. Covid is deadly and it's killing people of all ages!"
Me, still squinty-eyed "Reeeeally?" Then my brother gave me the mean squinty-eyed "just shut up" look.
She is corporate medicine through and through, because they sign her paycheck.
Jan 30, 2022·edited Jan 30, 2022Liked by Marc Girardot
If this is accurate, which appears to be the case, then the reaction to COVID may have resulted in as much, or more, fatalities. I call this the Infection Reaction Fatality Rate. I am not a statistician and will leave to more qualified people to determine the IRFR.
The IRFR is a critical metric that will reveal the insanity of idiots given authority to order our actions, treatments, etc, without awareness that they have crossed the line with lethal consequences, or worse, that they are aware.
You have to start with the Chinese government cover up of the SARS CoV 1 outbreak in 2003 for the reasons why the estimates of the IFR for SARs CoV 2 in Q1 2020 were so wrong. Outside China in 2003 it was just a few cluster outbreak, almost all directly connected to hospital or heath care workers. In China it was community spread.
The CFR is fairly straight forward to calculate. Number of deaths divided by number of those receiving medical treatment. For the IFR a post outbreak general population serological survey is done to estimate what percentage of the population had an infection. This was never done for China. Because the Chinese government consider such medical statistics national defense secrets.
So CFR for SARs CoV 2 (with minor adjustments) was used as the IFR in all official WHO and all related statistics. Which were used in the published literature. Although there was one paper out of China in 2003 that indicated that the IFR for SARs CoV 1 was little different from other HCOV's. Like 229E or OC43.
So an IFR of around 2% was used as the value used in the reputable epidemiological models in early 2020 (Which the Imperial Group one most definitely was not one of). Even though no other viral respiratory infection has an IFR equal to the CFR. The first paper published indicating the true IFR value was published by Taiwanese in a clinical paper on March 12'th 2020 and confirmed by the first South Korean clinical paper 15 days later.
This clinical data plus others published in February and March 2020 showing the the epidemiology and pathology of SARs Cov 2 was little different from other general circulation human corona viruses.
So on the very big lie of the IFR equals CFR for SARs CoV 1 in 2003 all the other smaller lies of the last two years were build. All of which were political motivated. One way or another.
Great analysis. It will be interesting to see how other countries start to address the mandates and the global response to the uk - will thevAU, NZ, Canada, Germany jump on the bandwagon? I fear this has never been about the sickness it is about a NWO and controlling citizens.
The last I estimate I read from Ioannidis was some time ago, but it was .15% globally and I think .225% in the U.S. Do you think the US rate was closer to the global rate, or do you think it was as high as .225%? How much of this is due to the poor health of Americans v. deaths attributed to COVID instead of with COVID? I stupidly made a bet with someone who bought the Imperial College 1.15% that US deaths wouldn't top 500,000 based on Ioannidis' global estimate of IFR.
Thanks. I probably can't get back the money I paid out (it was to a charity anyway) bc I agreed to accept the "official" numbers. But, if there is a public rectification of those numbers in the future, I will suggest to the person whom I bet that he should kick in the same amount to the charity of their choice.
Like most non molecular biologist you may nat understand that all of the calculations are based on PCR or antigen tests for ONE pathogen only. Do you know that an excellent CDC study published in 2015 found that despite using top diagnostic labs in the world (I was a head of such a lab for 24 years) in 62% of pneumonia diagnosed by X-ray, no infectious agent could be found. So please do not quote garbage data on cases, hospitalizations, ICU occupancy, or deaths. IFR, R0 calculations - that's all garbage in - garbage out.
I am reverse engineering the hospitalisation rates starting from a supposed 1.15% IFR.
The hospital data of death in ICU is reliable, it was 40% in the spring 2020, went down to 20% in the fall,so the inferred Risk of ICU would be between 1.15%/40% =3% and 1.15%/20%=6%. The rate to the ICU is 25%, so the inferred risk of hospitalisation would be between 12 and 24%. At no point is a PCR data needed... This is to demonstrate the absurdity of a high IFR.
This is excellent information. I'm going to share it with our state board of health and school boards. They can't argue the facts to push a mandate on our children. They're trying to sneak it in while people are not paying attention with their corrupt technical advisory group. God bless!
What we are dealing with is the greatest betrayal of trust that has ever happened in human history. Short overview of what happened, how it happened, and possible directions where things might progress into.
Soooo, can we the people sue the government, the CDC, the WHO, Fauci, Biden etc for LYING and DESTROYING so many lives? Oh, and don’t forget liability free Big Pharma for the deadly 💉.
When the government pays for covid, then by God, "everything" is gonna be covid!
Me, Easter dinner 2021, all squinty-eyed, asking my hospital-administrator nurse sister-in-law "don't you think it's weird that 80-yro to 100-yro people are no longer dying of natural causes, like "old age", everybody is just dying from covid??"
And completely straight faced she replied "no, it's not weird. Covid is deadly and it's killing people of all ages!"
Me, still squinty-eyed "Reeeeally?" Then my brother gave me the mean squinty-eyed "just shut up" look.
She is corporate medicine through and through, because they sign her paycheck.
If this is accurate, which appears to be the case, then the reaction to COVID may have resulted in as much, or more, fatalities. I call this the Infection Reaction Fatality Rate. I am not a statistician and will leave to more qualified people to determine the IRFR.
The IRFR is a critical metric that will reveal the insanity of idiots given authority to order our actions, treatments, etc, without awareness that they have crossed the line with lethal consequences, or worse, that they are aware.
You have to start with the Chinese government cover up of the SARS CoV 1 outbreak in 2003 for the reasons why the estimates of the IFR for SARs CoV 2 in Q1 2020 were so wrong. Outside China in 2003 it was just a few cluster outbreak, almost all directly connected to hospital or heath care workers. In China it was community spread.
The CFR is fairly straight forward to calculate. Number of deaths divided by number of those receiving medical treatment. For the IFR a post outbreak general population serological survey is done to estimate what percentage of the population had an infection. This was never done for China. Because the Chinese government consider such medical statistics national defense secrets.
So CFR for SARs CoV 2 (with minor adjustments) was used as the IFR in all official WHO and all related statistics. Which were used in the published literature. Although there was one paper out of China in 2003 that indicated that the IFR for SARs CoV 1 was little different from other HCOV's. Like 229E or OC43.
So an IFR of around 2% was used as the value used in the reputable epidemiological models in early 2020 (Which the Imperial Group one most definitely was not one of). Even though no other viral respiratory infection has an IFR equal to the CFR. The first paper published indicating the true IFR value was published by Taiwanese in a clinical paper on March 12'th 2020 and confirmed by the first South Korean clinical paper 15 days later.
This clinical data plus others published in February and March 2020 showing the the epidemiology and pathology of SARs Cov 2 was little different from other general circulation human corona viruses.
So on the very big lie of the IFR equals CFR for SARs CoV 1 in 2003 all the other smaller lies of the last two years were build. All of which were political motivated. One way or another.
The NYTimes article “Covid’s Partisan Errors”3/18/21 in the morning said “ the actual hospitalization rate is about 1%”
I sent the article to a friend 2 hours later and NYTimes had changed this line to “ the actual hospitalization rate is between 1%-5%”.
I have copies of both articles.
Who told them to change this line?
would love to have that. Any chance you have a screenshot?
But even with a 5% hospitalisation rate translates to an IFR of 0,25 to 0.5% which is crazy high but no where near what they have sold us.
Send an email to me at ginaonjersey@gmail.com and I will send you the photos.
Great report but unfortunately I cannot share with those that continue to believe in all of the fear mongering.
Why can't you share it?
They are too closed?
Great analysis. It will be interesting to see how other countries start to address the mandates and the global response to the uk - will thevAU, NZ, Canada, Germany jump on the bandwagon? I fear this has never been about the sickness it is about a NWO and controlling citizens.
The last I estimate I read from Ioannidis was some time ago, but it was .15% globally and I think .225% in the U.S. Do you think the US rate was closer to the global rate, or do you think it was as high as .225%? How much of this is due to the poor health of Americans v. deaths attributed to COVID instead of with COVID? I stupidly made a bet with someone who bought the Imperial College 1.15% that US deaths wouldn't top 500,000 based on Ioannidis' global estimate of IFR.
I think the US is grossly overstating the death toll. My NY model showed IFR was around 0.1%. My simulation showed a maximum 0.2%.
Remember that Singapore had 0.05% CFR for 15 mo pre-vaccine.
Thanks. I probably can't get back the money I paid out (it was to a charity anyway) bc I agreed to accept the "official" numbers. But, if there is a public rectification of those numbers in the future, I will suggest to the person whom I bet that he should kick in the same amount to the charity of their choice.
Bon travail comme d'hab, Marc, merci bien!
Thanks for carrying on the good fight.
Hi Marc
Like most non molecular biologist you may nat understand that all of the calculations are based on PCR or antigen tests for ONE pathogen only. Do you know that an excellent CDC study published in 2015 found that despite using top diagnostic labs in the world (I was a head of such a lab for 24 years) in 62% of pneumonia diagnosed by X-ray, no infectious agent could be found. So please do not quote garbage data on cases, hospitalizations, ICU occupancy, or deaths. IFR, R0 calculations - that's all garbage in - garbage out.
This is not case based at all. It's the opposite.
I understand very well PCR's uselessness.
I am reverse engineering the hospitalisation rates starting from a supposed 1.15% IFR.
The hospital data of death in ICU is reliable, it was 40% in the spring 2020, went down to 20% in the fall,so the inferred Risk of ICU would be between 1.15%/40% =3% and 1.15%/20%=6%. The rate to the ICU is 25%, so the inferred risk of hospitalisation would be between 12 and 24%. At no point is a PCR data needed... This is to demonstrate the absurdity of a high IFR.
How do you know the cause of death of patients in ICU?
This is excellent information. I'm going to share it with our state board of health and school boards. They can't argue the facts to push a mandate on our children. They're trying to sneak it in while people are not paying attention with their corrupt technical advisory group. God bless!
Thank you for this analysis.
What we are dealing with is the greatest betrayal of trust that has ever happened in human history. Short overview of what happened, how it happened, and possible directions where things might progress into.
https://mellob33.substack.com/p/trust-and-betrayal-how-to-destroy
Soooo, can we the people sue the government, the CDC, the WHO, Fauci, Biden etc for LYING and DESTROYING so many lives? Oh, and don’t forget liability free Big Pharma for the deadly 💉.
Yes
Like I've said, the brainwashing of the weak-minded was epic.
And the weak-minded were a vast majority.